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#07 – The Locations Effect, Mold Avoidance, Curing Chronic Fatigue and the Healing Power of Nature with Erik Johnson

What if physical location was the single greatest factor in determining your state of health? Many of the debates in the health world center around food choice. One food food is said to be inflammatory, another healing. However, location is almost never discussed. Our guest for episode #7 says that the “inhaled factor” far outweighed the “edible factor” in his road to healing from chronic fatigue syndrome. Erik Johnson is the co-author of a Beginner’s Guide to Mold Avoidance and the founder of a movement known as the Locations Effect, a system for using pristine natural environments to help calm down the immune system so the body can heal from chronic illness. In this episode, we talk to Erik about the mold avoidance protocols he used to transition from debilitating chronic fatigue to climbing Mt. Whitney in the span of just 6 months.

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This Episode Covers:

  • The “Tahoe Flu,” Chronic Fatigue and CDC Involvement [7:00];
  • The darkest days of Erik’s illness [12:00];
  • Mold avoidance vs. traditional allergy [15:42];
  • Discovering mold avoidance and the locations effect [18:00];
  • Unmasking: why people choose mold avoidance [24:00];
  • Why some people get sick when moving to Austin [29:00];
  • Which molds Erik avoids and why plus how he chooses locations [30:34];
  • Nanoparticles and World Health Organization funded labs [35:30];
  • Mold and mental illness [38:45];
  • Erik on limbic system retraining [42:25];
  • Reprograming the immune response and the benefit of altitude[45:26];
  • Inhaled factor vs. edible factor [50:00];
  • Erik on the Locations Effect maps [56:20];
  • The Unrest Documentary and lab tests to run [58:30];
  • The myth of indoor vs. outdoor mold [1:05]


What a fun and powerful interview. Although many in the medical community remain skeptical, the core of Erik’s theories are not all that controversial. The basic idea is that the immune system reacts to the ambient air. You needn’t look any further than your local allergists office to prove this theory. Further, the scientific community is recognizing that air pollution is particularly damaging to health which is why you see tools like this one from the LA Times that help people in Southern California determine just how close they are to the nearest interstate. Against that backdrop, Erik’s take is that the combination of Stachybotrys chartarum (both indoor and outdoor) is combining with an increase in air pollution (nanoparticles) and that the two together are creating particularly virulent toxic substances that are making people very ill. Just as some of us cannot stand the faintest hint of a peanut product, Erik’s position is that certain among us are hyper sensitive to the combination of mold toxins and air pollution. The presence of these toxins can drift. Nanoparticle pollution is carried into an area, feeds existing molds and makes them more powerful, which creates plumes that carry the mycotoxin. Before these plumes dissipate, the nanoparticles become a delivery mechanism for the mold, which then stays in the body causing a chronic response from the immune system. This is well established with indoor mold, but Erik believes it is an issue for ambient mold as well. The idea with mold avoidance is that the body gets an opportunity to heal when it is removed from environments that trigger an inflammatory response from the immune system. Erik used his protocols to heal his body and move from a state of chronic illness to climbing mountains. His theories should be studied and taken seriously.

Studies and Further Reading:

Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker’s website: Surviving Mold

Back From the Edge – a book by Dr. Lisa Petrison about Erik’s like.

Paradigm Change website.

A Beginner’s Guide to Mold Avoidance by Erik and Dr. Petrison.

Another account of mold avoidance as a healing protocol.

The Unrest Documentary

In the comments section to episode #2 with Dr. Neil Nathan, Dr. Keith Berndtson, co-founder of the International Society for Environmentally Acquired Illness, offered these studies (both performed in animals) in support of Erik’s theories.

To quote Dr. Berndtson:

My main concern has to do with research on mice and primates showing that Satratoxin G toxins, produced by Stachybotrys chartarum, not only damage the epithelial cells that line the mucous membranes in the nasal and sinus spaces, they can also damage and kill olfactory sensory neurons.

John O'Connor

John O'Connor is the founder of Gene Food. He is passionate about nutrition, genetics, and wellness and uses this blog to publish self experiments as well as some of the research that the Gene Food team does internally to highlight stories of bio-individuality.

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  1. Rich Gill says:

    Thank you for providing a voice to this very well documented alternative view of mold illness and chronic fatigue syndrome. It’s extremely important to consider all valid observations in developing the big picture of this syndrome and not just accept the medical establishment dogma, which has proven time and again to directly violate the promise to “First, do no harm”. Voices of experienced, thoughtful and educated patients such as Mr Johnson need to be elevated to a level of validity that will not allow them to be so easily dismissed by the powerful players in the medical industrial complex.

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